Category talk:Petpets

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Since there are about 430 Petpets, I was wondering if the list could be made a little more overseeable by adding a few more subcategories. How about also making world-petpet categories? Like a Shenkuu-Petpets category and a Krawk Island-Petpets category (and possibly a Cooking Pot-Petpets category). I'd also appreciate a category for Petpet characters. It's highly unlikely that any Petpet species would ever get enough individuals to make categories like we have for Neopets. A category for famous Petpets (including the "big ones" like the Snowbeast and Turmaculus) would be logical. Lastly, do we need a Petpet Protection League category? Sooner or later, every Petpet will fall under that category (minus the ones only obtainable through the Lab Ray). In fact, a big amount of the Petpets already belongs to that category. DreamingLady 08:19, 14 Jul 2007 (UTC)

You bring very valid points. :)

1. Having specific categories for petpet types would be smart rather than having all petpets in one category. The categories would of course be named by what type they are (Spooky Petpets, Legendary Petpets, etc.), which means regular petpets (like the Spyder) would remain in original category.
2. For Petpets whic relate to the Cooking Pot, i think a simple "Cooking Pot" category would suffice (which would include all articles which relate to the Cooking Pot).
3. What shall we name the category for famous/character petpets? "Petpet Characters"? "Famous Petpets"?
4. The PPL category does seem pretty redundant when you put it like that. It's only other purpose is to signify what other articles besides petpets relate to it. Even with that, does it really need to be there?

This is good discussion. Thank you for bringing it up. *thumbs up* --Jacob 14:04, 14 Jul 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate the support. But,

1. I think we should hold on to one cover-all category. Now, I do not have any true arguments for it, just that I think some people (like me) might appreciate it. Neoitems has no Petpets category (the one named "Petpets" only covers the ones from the original category), and it annoys me beyond words. It certainly helped me appreciate this earlier mentioned page a lot more when I found it. Just for simple browsing, a category covering all Petpets is a must. Also, and I admit cases like this one are rare, the Werhond article would get in "serious trouble" if there was no main Petpets category. Yes, for the very few Petpets that do exist, but not as the Petpet item, we could just pick the most likely category, but that wouldn't be very accurate. As for the original Petpet subcategory, why not just name it that? Original Petpets, or maybe Neopian Petpets (as "Neopian" is most often associated with "original"/"Neopia Central").
2. A Cooking Pot category would indeed be a better idea.
3. Unless someone comes up with a better name, I think "Petpet Characters" will do.

DreamingLady 19:20, 14 Jul 2007 (UTC)

More discussion! :D

1. Of course this original category will remain. It will be what ties all the specific petpet categories together (and can be used to categorize unreleased petpets as you've mentioned). For petpets part of the regular petpet category, "Original Petpets" could probably work.
2. There is already a "Characters" category. Would "Petpet Characters" simply replace that category in articles? Could work...but seems to remind me of the "Faeries" category I made. whenever a character what a faerie as well, I tagged it with that category. Though this is a slightly different case, isn't it? ;) In either case, does this mean we will need to create a "Petpetpet Characters" category as well?

That's my input. :) --Jacob 10:44, 17 Jul 2007 (UTC)

I guess this discussion died a little by my semi-leaving.

1. I agree that's the best solution.
2. I'm not sure how to handle the Petpet Characters category vs the Characters category. I think it's best to replace it, considering Neopets often introduces new characters. To prevent ridiculous long lists, Petpet Characters as a replacing subcategory for the Characters category probably is best. As for Petpetpet characters, I don't think there is a big urge for a seperate category, since there are about 5 (?) Petpetpet characters in all. They can just be "characters" for now.

Well, so can we make the change? The change being:

1. Deletion of the Petpet Protection League category
2. Creation of Petpet type categories + Cooking Pot category
3. Creation of a Petpet Characters category
4. Replacing the categories in articles where necessary.

I'll do nr. 4 if someone else is prepared to make the appropriate categories.DreamingLady 18:46, 14 Aug 2007 (UTC)

I just saw this, due to the new post, and I think what you say makes a lot of sense, especially having a category for the Cooking Pot Petpets. I agree that the PPL category is silly, plus, the PPL only applies to one color of petpet, not the entire species, so without making individual pages it seems unnecessary to have them.

I am currently working on putting together a spreadsheet of Pet/Petpet colors/release dates, for which I'm using the old news articles and 100bottles' petpage and I hope to input a lot of the information onto the Neodex, starting with the petpets that are PPL winners and/or are already linked from other articles here. As of right now, I'm in July of 2004, so I still have about 3 years to catalogue before I'll be able to really do a lot but I have been adding a few that I've completed color lists for (I wait until I find all the release dates for colors before I make or add to a page so I don't keep editing over and over).

Also, I thought I would add that the statement about Neoitem's lack of a general Petpet list has been addressed and will hopefully be rectified at some point in the future, probably with a special list but Webbie, the site's creator and overseer, is having a rough few months and will not be able to do much for a while. Just wanted to say it's a common thing and it's being worked on. --Cath 20:28, 14 Aug 2007 (UTC)

Suppose I did leave something out for awhile, didn't I? *taps head* Follow through Jacob! :D

On terms of things to do, will be deleting the PPL category ASAP...as soon as all the linked articles are taken off. Going to be a task, that is for sure. I'm also willing to create all the required Petpet categories mentioned.

Cath, it's great to hear you are taking the time and effort for such a task. Your work thus far has been very good and much appreciated. Look forward to seeing more. :) *thumbs up* --Jacob 02:38, 15 Aug 2007 (UTC)

And that takes care of that. Everything should be in the proper category right now (blame neoitems if it isn't). The Petpets left in the Petpets category are Petpets who have no type due to being unreleased, not yet really released (like the Darblat) or being Lab Ray only. DreamingLady 11:29, 16 Aug 2007 (UTC)