SHHH!!! Can you read? Want to prove it? Meet fellow book worms and discuss the literary brilliance of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.
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Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:14 pm

i thought it was about harry potter nd the things he faces.

Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:26 pm

Twitchy wrote:i thought it was about harry potter nd the things he faces.


That's what the plotline is about, but there's a theme in there as well. Stupid english class crud :P

Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:41 am

Quite coincidentally, many, many things in a fan-fiction after the 4th book was finished actually happened in the 5th book, or are very similar, including dementors attack Harry and Dudley, and The Order of the Phoenix being founded by Dumbledore.

The other fiction makes no sense, though. In the fan-fiction 6th book, also created before the 5th book, Dudley finds out he has a little wizarding blood. Dumbledore "has been evil all along" and is using a holographic card game to brainwash students. He's Voldy's master, too. Everyone goes on a field trip to Egypt or something like that and they meet Ron's "lost lost sister."

It was on harrypotterfiction.net or something like that. Strangely, I get a page can't be displayed error when I go there now.

Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:32 pm

lol.....that is ...er....strange. O_o

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:19 am

Sankaras Mansion wrote:The other fiction makes no sense, though. In the fan-fiction 6th book, also created before the 5th book, Dudley finds out he has a little wizarding blood. Dumbledore "has been evil all along" and is using a holographic card game to brainwash students. He's Voldy's master, too. Everyone goes on a field trip to Egypt or something like that and they meet Ron's "lost lost sister."


*Twitches* Mary Sues (I'm guessing Harry or Draco end up with Ron's long-lost sister, or she's beautiful and better than everyone, or has a really angsty past) rarely make any sense. *Sporks Mary Sue*

Igg wrote:OR you could stop debating it and just be patient and wait for the book to come out, because nothing you say is going to have any affect on the plot.

No, didn't think so.


But debating's fuuun. :P

*Shuts up on the Sirius debate*

Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:11 am

(I know who plays voldemort in the fourth film)'

I don't think what ahppened in that fanfic is gonna happen in rhe book....noooo way!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:02 am

...Alex wrote:
Igg wrote:OR you could stop debating it and just be patient and wait for the book to come out, because nothing you say is going to have any affect on the plot.

No, didn't think so.


But debating's fuuun. :P

*Shuts up on the Sirius debate*

I know, it was a bit of a stab in the dark to get hard core Potter obsessives to stop debating something they can't control.
:P

Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:11 pm

:P

I can continue debating all day! :P

Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:30 pm

Sankaras Mansion wrote:Quite coincidentally, many, many things in a fan-fiction after the 4th book was finished actually happened in the 5th book, or are very similar, including dementors attack Harry and Dudley, and The Order of the Phoenix being founded by Dumbledore.

The other fiction makes no sense, though. In the fan-fiction 6th book, also created before the 5th book, Dudley finds out he has a little wizarding blood. Dumbledore "has been evil all along" and is using a holographic card game to brainwash students. He's Voldy's master, too. Everyone goes on a field trip to Egypt or something like that and they meet Ron's "lost lost sister."

It was on harrypotterfiction.net or something like that. Strangely, I get a page can't be displayed error when I go there now.


*Snorts* Yes, that is just wrong. Incedently, harrypotterfanfiction.com is not responding at the moment for me either. And I still think my Siri will be back in some way, shape, or form :)

Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:33 pm

Harry said the name sirius into the looking glass, if her had said padfoot, and not broken it after sirius didn't work, he might have been ableto contact him!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:38 pm

Wishful thinking. Following Fudge's path. Bleah.

But as for Wormtail's silver hand, Remus drank from a silver goblet in "Order of the Phoenix" (the chapter), so no dice there!

Dumbledore, though, is bound to die in Book VI, so that Voldemort can become "greater and more terrible" in the limited span of time he has. With eleven years last time, the Order on top when OotP closed... yeah.

You know, there USED to be a pattern with the titles. Who's after the Philosopher's Stone? Who opened the Chamber of Secrets? Just who is this Prisoner of Azkaban, really? Who put Harry's name in the Goblet of Fire? It's the mystery that drives the plot. To that end, OotP should have been "Harry Potter and the Hidden Weapon" or something. If it weren't for the last anomaly, I would say the mystery surrounds the Half-Blood Prince. But who really knows any more?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:52 pm

Ok, I honestly and Siriusly think that Fudge will step down as Minister or be forced out of office. However, I disagree with the people that claim he's a death-eater. I know no one here brought it up yet, but I wanted to get it in the open. In GoF, according to JKR's precise wording, it sounds as if Voldie didn't address all the Death Eaters, but did address all the empty spaces. Now, Fudge was with Dumbledore the whole time, so he can't have been there. There were 3 servants mentioned at Hogwarts- the "most faithful" (Moody/Barty Crouch Jr.), then the one who has "left me forever" and the one "too cowardly to return" now those two are Snape and Karkoff, so there is no room for Fudge to be listed.

Also, I believe in this or the old topic the subject of James and Lupin having switched places to protect James came up. This is soooooooo not true. For starters, would JAMES, who would put himself in harms way to save an ENEMY (Snape) really put his best friend (Lupin) in danger!??! Uh, HECK NO. Secondly, if James was in Lupin's body, why the heck didn't he know about my Siri being innocent!?! Uh-huh. I rest my case

As to the HBP thing itself, I have no clue but I suspect it will be a charater we already have met.

Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:00 pm

Robin wrote:Ok, I honestly and Siriusly think that Fudge will step down as Minister or be forced out of office. However, I disagree with the people that claim he's a death-eater. I know no one here brought it up yet, but I wanted to get it in the open. In GoF, according to JKR's precise wording, it sounds as if Voldie didn't address all the Death Eaters, but did address all the empty spaces. Now, Fudge was with Dumbledore the whole time, so he can't have been there. There were 3 servants mentioned at Hogwarts- the "most faithful" (Moody/Barty Crouch Jr.), then the one who has "left me forever" and the one "too cowardly to return" now those two are Snape and Karkoff, so there is no room for Fudge to be listed.

Also, I believe in this or the old topic the subject of James and Lupin having switched places to protect James came up. This is soooooooo not true. For starters, would JAMES, who would put himself in harms way to save an ENEMY (Snape) really put his best friend (Lupin) in danger!??! Uh, HECK NO. Secondly, if James was in Lupin's body, why the heck didn't he know about my Siri being innocent!?! Uh-huh. I rest my case

As to the HBP thing itself, I have no clue but I suspect it will be a charater we already have met.


As far as I know, BodySwitch!Lupin is a figment of Galadriel Waters' more fevered dreams. We're talking about someone who thinks that Stubby Boardman being hit in the ear by a turnip is significant and that J.K. Rowling gets some of her ideas from nursery rhymes.

And Fudge - he was clearly going to any lengths to deny that horrible things were happening around him. Thus my accusations above. And yes, it's confirmed there will be a new Minister in Book VI. And it won't be Arthur Weasley.

Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:14 pm

Tharkun wrote:As far as I know, BodySwitch!Lupin is a figment of Galadriel Waters' more fevered dreams. We're talking about someone who thinks that Stubby Boardman being hit in the ear by a turnip is significant and that J.K. Rowling gets some of her ideas from nursery rhymes.


I have seen several people follow that woman very steadily though, and several- and I do mean SEVERAL- people I've seen agree with the BodySwitch!Lupin thing. Of course, she is a bit of a hypocryte. In the Ultimate Unoffical Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter (Analysis of books 1-4) which came out long before OotP, in regards to the JKR hint about a room at Hogwarts which has special magical powers that is mentioned in book 4 and Harry dosen't know about the powers yet (it turns out to be the Room of Requirment which Dumbledore mentions at the Yule Ball in passing to Karkoff) she says this (on page 391 of the Paperback Edition):

Ultimate Unoffical Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter wrote:How to analyze a J.K.R. hint: Make NO assumptions and think creatively. A room from Book 4 does not mean anyone actually entered the room.

Now, the very next sentence:
Ultimate Unoffical Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter wrote:So, what rooms are mentioned in Book 4? (We don't count Dumbledore's "disappearing room" joke.)


Ok, so what the heck happened to "Make NO assumptions"!?! *sigh* That woman has some interesting insights, and helped me see the books in a new way with facts presented, but she also has some of the wildest theories I've ever heard...

Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:36 am

On J.K.rowlings website she said their are clues in the second book. As for the HBP I belive it shall be hagrid.
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