WW 32: Harry Potter - Game over! (Please Lock)

[Alex]

I'm finding it slightly odd that we've apparently got both a bus driver and a flip flopper in the game, and we haven't had more confusion as a result. Whose lists did you swap that caused Ginny-ROX to die? Because we can most likely confirm the people who had those lists and whether their actions would have meant Ginny-ROX would die. And, if you swapped someone's list that caused Ginny-ROX to die, wouldn't that then mean that said person was evil and you haven't mentioned it on the thread?

I was always under the impression Ginny-ROX's place was switched with Player X by the aforementioned bus driver, which would also account for not knowing who was behind the attack.

Also, I've never heard of a flip flopper who couldn't be executed, from all the games I've been in.

[fzun]

I'm not sure which night stop you were talking about Siniri. The first one where we all had a potion or something definitely was Snape. But last night's was the puter-outer that belonged to Dumbledore (then Ron) and I believe Dumbledore took credit for that one.

[Siniri]

fzun, sorry, I was referring to the first nightstop (and explaining why I believed ooga caused it) -- it was a response to Blake saying that Snape wouldn't have a nightstop.

ETA: Sorry, I just realized what Ella posted on-thread does NOT contradict what she shared with me via PM -- I was confusing who ginnyrox was when I wrote that (I'll go back and strike it). However, there have been inconsistencies between what she shared with me and what she shared with someone else. Plus there was the dreamer result. And the fact that a successful flipflop should have revealed the AK spokesperson.

[Susannahmio]

Vote: 3lla
Vote: Ooga

Time for a majority?

[3lla]

Well with this game being so large, I don't find it at all surprising that there is a bus driver aswell.

Anyone who has been the flip flopper before would know that you send in two lists of people and that through randomizer two people get their lists switched. Just because I switched the lists doesn't mean I know who they got switched with. For all you know I could have had ginny-ROX on both lists.

Also, I've never heard of a flip flopper who couldn't be executed, from all the games I've been in.

Well any werewolf game can be slightly customized can't they? Who's to say that this one isnt? I've been in a few WW games where my roles have been slightly customized to better suit the subject matter of the game. I'm sure other people have been in similar WW games too.

However, there have been inconsistencies between what she shared with me and what she shared with someone else.

May I ask what sort of inconsistencies? Just because I don't share a particular detail of my role with one person doesn't mean that it's inconsistent with what I told someone else about my role. I can be selective about what I say if I want to be, and I have been. I'm sure other people have been too. I have had my suspicions about certain people during the course of the game so I will of course be wary about sharing certain things. After all this is just WW.
One that note, Vote: Ooga.

[Alex]

Anyone who has been the flip flopper before would know that you send in two lists of people and that through randomizer two people get their lists switched. Just because I switched the lists doesn't mean I know who they got switched with.

I beg to differ. I've had this role before; and it wasn't randomised. It appears WereWiki agrees with me, too:

Each night you can switch two players' lists. Send two lists of 5 players whose lists you'd like to switch, the topmost living player on the first list will use the second player's list (and vice-versa).

Agreed on the customisation, but it just sounds very odd to have a role where they couldn't be executed at all. I've heard of roles where people can't be executed or targeted on even/odd days, but not all the time.

ETA: Aaand, I've just had someone else tell me that they're Peeves. So one of you two is lying. I'm likely to believe the person I've been in contact with.

[Hansy]

Vote: 3lla

Whoever this role doubler is. They're getting more and more suspicious.
And yeah, let's vote Ooga as well. If he's telling the truth, he doesn't have any powers left, so it's worth the risk...

Vote: thetrueoogabooga

[Siniri]

Now I'm really confused. According to the Werewiki,

The Flip Flopper can switch two players lists each night, making those players use each others' lists instead of their own.

So how would having ginnyROX on either list have made her get targeted? Wouldn't you have had to swap the AK spokesperson's list with someone else's (perhaps a protector who deliberately put ginny at the top of their list)? Or are you saying ginny was the AK spokesperson? And you might not have known who the AK spokesperson was if the lists were randomized, but it would have been substantially narrowed down for you (and thus could have been for the dreamers as well)... I don't want to vote off an innocent, but some of what you're saying just doesn't quite make sense. But this is my first WW game, so I'm learning as I go...

I've gone back and re-read the pages after night 2. Very interesting.

[3lla]

Agreed on the customisation, but it just sounds very odd to have a role where they couldn't be executed at all. I've heard of roles where people can't be executed or targeted on even/odd days, but not all the time.

ETA: Aaand, I've just had someone else tell me that they're Peeves. So one of you two is lying. I'm likely to believe the person I've been in contact with.

Well I was once the Governor, and as a custom bonus I couldn't be executed even though the sample role doesn't say that it's required.

I contacted Rubywinged early in the game to make sure that someone else wouldn't come forward as Peeves seeing as she was the only forward innocent at the time and it being such a big game, I knew that someone was bound to end up being an imposter and trying to get me executed such as now.

[thetrueoogabooga]

Alright whoop de doo you wanna kill me what a shocker. There's one power I told nobody about in hopes that I would have been killed by now. I'm also a celebrity, so either the person who kills me dies, or the starter of the bandwagon dies. Because Tanner would die if you killed me I think we should unvote me for at least today. I don't know if it would move down the list if you got majority and Tanner had unvoted me. I doubt it but my role doesn't say. Either way I don't want to risk Tanner just cause ya'll are a lil bloodthirsty.

EDIT: Vote: 3lla

EDIT 2: Tanner, I also like how you wait until I specifically state that I will be around less to acuse me of being bad. <_<

[Rissa]

I'm fairly sure 3lla is lying. I think fzun hit the nail on the head-- the only reason she wouldn't be executed tonight is because she has a ridiculously high shield and/or because there are still horcruxes that need to be destroyed. Regardless, we might as well try.

Vote: 3lla
Vote: Ooga

Last edited by Rissa on Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[thetrueoogabooga]

Rissa you have to bold your votes. Also did you read what I wrote?

[Regan]

Vote: Ella

For now. I also find it unlikely that her character is one that can never be executed.

[Hansy]

Snape as a celebrity? Nahh. Nobody loves Snape in the series (besides Dumbledore) I think you're just trying to make us afraid of executing you.

Btw, am I the only one thinking that these role mixes are pretty odd? Ella claims she was a Governor (and that doesn't fit with Peeves at all, again), then turned into a flip flopper; and cannot be executed. Ooga had a rez, a night-stop, and celebrity powers... :\

[thetrueoogabooga]

I'm a celebrity because everyone likes me or despises me, so it would be sad for me to die. And would I lie when Tanner would die if I'm innocent? If anyone else unconfirmed had started the bandwagon I wouldn't have cared too much, but Tanner is important. If you all decide to kill me, I might as well just give up on the innocents now.