Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:51 am
optima10 wrote:Does anyone else think maybe Kentari pushed Hoban?
Yep, I do. He's just so un-suspicious that it actually makes me suspicious.
Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:02 am
well... I guessed ages ago, and I gotta say that this really isnt holding my intrest anymore. I hope that this isnt the end of the plot, because if it is then TNT have really dropped their standards.
Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:03 pm
klh44 wrote:well... I guessed ages ago, and I gotta say that this really isnt holding my intrest anymore. I hope that this isnt the end of the plot, because if it is then TNT have really dropped their standards.
True, but as I recall, they never really called this a plot, or a mini-plot for that matter. Even the board name this time doesn't contain the word. Perhaps. they believe that things doesn't need to be too complicated for this "semi-plot" or whatever. Dunno..
Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:19 pm
If you go to the Council Chamber and listen to the story again, it still says "We will soon provide you with a choice of rewards for your service to the kingdom. You can return here to see whether those rewards are yet available." TNT hasnt "forgotten" about our prices. Why/How could they forget?
The Cyodrakes Gaze hasnt been announced the same way as the Altador plot wasnt announced. I think the Cyodrakes Gaze and Altador plot is connected somehow. I have no idead how? But you can still do the Altador Plot and that means it hasnt finished yet.
Also I dont really think this will lead to a new world. Since the Cyodrakes Gaze has the shops. I think the world is the Cyodrakes Gaze (like a mini world) that will constantly be moving between neopian worlds (or countires). When it is at dock somewhere we can buy stuff, when its at sea, nothing is for sale.
The Cyodrakes Gaze hasnt been announced the same way as the Altador plot wasnt announced. I think the Cyodrakes Gaze and Altador plot is connected somehow. I have no idead how? But you can still do the Altador Plot and that means it hasnt finished yet.
Also I dont really think this will lead to a new world. Since the Cyodrakes Gaze has the shops. I think the world is the Cyodrakes Gaze (like a mini world) that will constantly be moving between neopian worlds (or countires). When it is at dock somewhere we can buy stuff, when its at sea, nothing is for sale.
Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:34 pm
Pia321 wrote:Also I dont really think this will lead to a new world. Since the Cyodrakes Gaze has the shops. I think the world is the Cyodrakes Gaze (like a mini world) that will constantly be moving between neopian worlds (or countires). When it is at dock somewhere we can buy stuff, when its at sea, nothing is for sale.
That would be interesting
Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:41 pm
Okay I'm going thru the comic again for the millionth time.
I cant understand what the map showing a cross and a stapled line in the last frame of Kentaris story is doing there? Any suggestions? Or is it a hint that Kentari has been in the navigators cabin?
I cant understand what the map showing a cross and a stapled line in the last frame of Kentaris story is doing there? Any suggestions? Or is it a hint that Kentari has been in the navigators cabin?
I've got it!!!!
Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:25 pm
The butler did it in the library with a knife!
Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:50 pm
If you spend long enough analyzing the comics, eventually you realize that details which were designed to look like inconsistancies (ie Linae and Anshu's Red Herring conspiracy) can be given an alternate (but equally feasible) meaning for what was being said, and if you can get around the "emotions" that have been embedded in each character.
...With the Linae/Anshu thing for instance, Linae claims they were talking about bad food and Anshu claims they were talking about a medical issue. This is designed to make it look like they are lying. If you think for a couple seconds however, you will remember that Linae started to describe how the food was making her feel sick (aka a medical issue) before we - as the interviewer - told her to shut up.
...TNT has also only provided certain chronological details for each perspective which, at first glance, makes all the stories seem conflicting because they don't initially appear to match up.
...Pretty much each character divulges 'time' information which allows you to determine where Hoban was on deck for each hour, and where most characters where at each given time.
...No character tells you a lie, the details just get a bit warped because of how they *perceive* the other characters.
...In my opinion neither Anchu nor Linae could be guilty because, according to my logic, at 5:00 Anchu was with Banju (and Hoban) and Linae was in the same area as Kentari... and at 6:00 Anchu and Linae moved below deck to both work on the leak together (Linae could not have gone down sooner as a result of the implications of the "time" information given by Anchu's story)
...I was too tired to really determine conclusively what part of the ship it happened on, but I'm relatively certain it was Kentari at 6:00... There was a lot of logic thrown into this...but I'm just way too tired right now to be bothered typing out my entire train of deductive reasoning
...With the Linae/Anshu thing for instance, Linae claims they were talking about bad food and Anshu claims they were talking about a medical issue. This is designed to make it look like they are lying. If you think for a couple seconds however, you will remember that Linae started to describe how the food was making her feel sick (aka a medical issue) before we - as the interviewer - told her to shut up.
...TNT has also only provided certain chronological details for each perspective which, at first glance, makes all the stories seem conflicting because they don't initially appear to match up.
...Pretty much each character divulges 'time' information which allows you to determine where Hoban was on deck for each hour, and where most characters where at each given time.
...No character tells you a lie, the details just get a bit warped because of how they *perceive* the other characters.
...In my opinion neither Anchu nor Linae could be guilty because, according to my logic, at 5:00 Anchu was with Banju (and Hoban) and Linae was in the same area as Kentari... and at 6:00 Anchu and Linae moved below deck to both work on the leak together (Linae could not have gone down sooner as a result of the implications of the "time" information given by Anchu's story)
...I was too tired to really determine conclusively what part of the ship it happened on, but I'm relatively certain it was Kentari at 6:00... There was a lot of logic thrown into this...but I'm just way too tired right now to be bothered typing out my entire train of deductive reasoning
Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:19 pm
Who pushed Hoban? Anshu
When did he fall? 5:00
Where on the ship did he fall? port railing
Where is Hoban now? I22
Do you like Hoban's hat? yes, it's very stylish
I'm probably wrong, not that I care. I thought this whole plot was leading up to something interesting. Just give me my Altador plot prizes, access to a new world, release a paintbrush for said new world, and I'll be happy as a clam.
Reason why I picked Anshu is because I think he's lying, or I thought. Also that he never mentions Linae helping him with the leak, but when he went up to talk to Bonju, that's probably when he got Linae. Now I want to change my answer *pout*
When did he fall? 5:00
Where on the ship did he fall? port railing
Where is Hoban now? I22
Do you like Hoban's hat? yes, it's very stylish
I'm probably wrong, not that I care. I thought this whole plot was leading up to something interesting. Just give me my Altador plot prizes, access to a new world, release a paintbrush for said new world, and I'll be happy as a clam.
Reason why I picked Anshu is because I think he's lying, or I thought. Also that he never mentions Linae helping him with the leak, but when he went up to talk to Bonju, that's probably when he got Linae. Now I want to change my answer *pout*
Re: I've got it!!!!
Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:21 pm
TopsyTourny wrote:The butler did it in the library with a knife!
It was clearly Professor Plum in the Conservatory with the Lead Pipe.
Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:27 pm
ELiPteK wrote:...No character tells you a lie, the details just get a bit warped because of how they *perceive* the other characters.
...In my opinion neither Anchu nor Linae could be guilty because, according to my logic, at 5:00 Anchu was with Banju (and Hoban) and Linae was in the same area as Kentari... and at 6:00 Anchu and Linae moved below deck to both work on the leak together (Linae could not have gone down sooner as a result of the implications of the "time" information given by Anchu's story)
I'm sorry but I really have to disagree with you
I believe one of them are lying. There is a fact: one of these four pushed Hoban overboard. Whoever pushed Hoban overboard had to have a reason to do that, a motive. To hide his/hers motive they need to tell the interviewer what happend without giving away their motive or events that happend that can link that person to the crime.
I have also concluded with one more thing to be true to help me with this "plot": Captain Tuans story. I believe his story is true because he is not one of the options in the drop-down menu of suspects, and he is the only other side we can read about.
So the most suspicious thing I find is Anshu's story:
1. It is after his story "we" say that we know what happend. Why dont we interview Shumi and Orrin? Even thou they might not have been able to do it (Orrin being loocked up and stuff) they could probably have had more information. Its normal to inreview everybody who know something.
2. When the storm came Anshu says: "Upon receiveing instructions from the captain we hurried to carry out our assignments". On a ship that small, with only 8 people/pets on board, everybody know what to do during a storm! It is also not mentioned in any other story that the captain gives out orders to the crewmembers. Also in the kaptains, kentaris and bonjus story, Anshu is on deck the first time of the storm.
3. Linae says at the end of the storm she helped Anshu with the leak. So Anshu has been working on that leak the entire storm! Not been seen by anyone! I think Linae is just backing up his story by saying she helped him. Giving him an alibi.
This is a small part of the story as I believe it happend. I dont have the patience to write my whole theory....
Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:21 pm
Who pushed Hoban? Anshu
When did he fall? 5:00
Where on the ship did he fall? port railing
Where is Hoban now? G19
Do you like Hoban's hat? no, it's very dungish
No they didn't forget. In the NT they said that one has been on the servers for a few weeks. Then a few days later that was found and it turned out to be a Sidebar Theme.
When did he fall? 5:00
Where on the ship did he fall? port railing
Where is Hoban now? G19
Do you like Hoban's hat? no, it's very dungish
Pia321 wrote:If you go to the Council Chamber and listen to the story again, it still says "We will soon provide you with a choice of rewards for your service to the kingdom. You can return here to see whether those rewards are yet available." TNT hasnt "forgotten" about our prices. Why/How could they forget?
No they didn't forget. In the NT they said that one has been on the servers for a few weeks. Then a few days later that was found and it turned out to be a Sidebar Theme.
Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:43 pm
SnarkieFan wrote:Do you like Hoban's hat? no, it's very dungish
Did you really say that? I only had "yes" as an option, and I thought it was that way for everyone.
Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:55 pm
Catastrophic wrote:SnarkieFan wrote:Do you like Hoban's hat? no, it's very dungish
Did you really say that? I only had "yes" as an option, and I thought it was that way for everyone.
I think everyone just had yes, as far as I know
At this point, I think Hoban just pitched himself off. And I'm about to join him. This is so frustrating
Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:07 pm
Catastrophic wrote:SnarkieFan wrote:Do you like Hoban's hat? no, it's very dungish
Did you really say that? I only had "yes" as an option, and I thought it was that way for everyone.
lol no no i only had the option of yes...thats just what i wish another option would be
EDIT:
thelilbear - i totally agree! Can i join u?