Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:23 pm
pezx2k wrote:hey im curious, people keep using the " its in the flash file" excuse...but who actually got in the flash file? I've been trying for awhile, and I can't find the constellations in there. Can someone who actually has gone IN the flash file explain?
It comes from *decompiling* the layers of the Flash file, not from viewing the final image.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:38 pm
First post has been updated to reflect the backup site of Stoodder's program.
Please make sure you note that.
The general trend has been such that every 2(ish) days at the time the news is update, another piece of the puzzle for the plot is revealed.
Tis all about patience.
Please make sure you note that.
The general trend has been such that every 2(ish) days at the time the news is update, another piece of the puzzle for the plot is revealed.
Tis all about patience.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:43 pm
The general trend has been such that every 2(ish) days at the time the news is update, another piece of the puzzle for the plot is revealed.
Tis all about patience.
I agree. (I hope I'm allowed to agree!) Doesn't it usually release around 6:30-ish? I read that once somewhere.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:44 pm
Strano wrote:The general trend has been such that every 2(ish) days at the time the news is update, another piece of the puzzle for the plot is revealed.
Tis all about patience.
I agree. (I hope I'm allowed to agree!) Doesn't it usually release around 6:30-ish? I read that once somewhere.
That's kinda the normal time but sometimes it's at twelve in the afternoon and sometimes it's at 9:00 at night. It's all around the board.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:47 pm
Strano wrote:The general trend has been such that every 2(ish) days at the time the news is update, another piece of the puzzle for the plot is revealed.
Tis all about patience.
I agree. (I hope I'm allowed to agree!) Doesn't it usually release around 6:30-ish? I read that once somewhere.
Why wouldn't you? ;P
But in any case, tryin to guess when TNT updates is like a crapshoot. Just gotta get lucky with yer timin' heh
Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:52 pm
ScottNak wrote:Strano wrote:The general trend has been such that every 2(ish) days at the time the news is update, another piece of the puzzle for the plot is revealed.
Tis all about patience.
I agree. (I hope I'm allowed to agree!) Doesn't it usually release around 6:30-ish? I read that once somewhere.
Why wouldn't you? ;P
But in any case, tryin to guess when TNT updates is like a crapshoot. Just gotta get lucky with yer timin' heh
Heh, yeah.
Hopefully they'll update it at 6:30 NST tonight.....I'm the most impatient person in the world 
Maybe, when we find our next constellation, our coordinates will update and we'll get to view more constellations in Stoodder's constellation finder.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:04 pm
thankyou ive got it now.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:07 pm
anjuna wrote:pezx2k wrote:hey im curious, people keep using the " its in the flash file" excuse...but who actually got in the flash file? I've been trying for awhile, and I can't find the constellations in there. Can someone who actually has gone IN the flash file explain?
It comes from *decompiling* the layers of the Flash file, not from viewing the final image.
Yea I get that, the flash file (telescope_cc0270.swf ?) is protected...I'ved tried importing into flash, importing to stage, importing to library...renaming....and its still protected. How did you manage to open the flash file?
I did find a "deprotector" that spit out a file, but all it was was the background....no stars....
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:17 pm
pezx2k wrote:anjuna wrote:pezx2k wrote:hey im curious, people keep using the " its in the flash file" excuse...but who actually got in the flash file? I've been trying for awhile, and I can't find the constellations in there. Can someone who actually has gone IN the flash file explain?
It comes from *decompiling* the layers of the Flash file, not from viewing the final image.
Yea I get that, the flash file (telescope_cc0270.swf ?) is protected...I'ved tried importing into flash, importing to stage, importing to library...renaming....and its still protected. How did you manage to open the flash file?
I did find a "deprotector" that spit out a file, but all it was was the background....no stars....
The stars are colored pixels/circles dynamically created based on a coordinates datafile retrieved separately and on an individual basis from Neopets's servers. That's why you won't find any pictures of stars or any star data in the Flash file.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:25 pm
farside wrote:pezx2k wrote:anjuna wrote:pezx2k wrote:hey im curious, people keep using the " its in the flash file" excuse...but who actually got in the flash file? I've been trying for awhile, and I can't find the constellations in there. Can someone who actually has gone IN the flash file explain?
It comes from *decompiling* the layers of the Flash file, not from viewing the final image.
Yea I get that, the flash file (telescope_cc0270.swf ?) is protected...I'ved tried importing into flash, importing to stage, importing to library...renaming....and its still protected. How did you manage to open the flash file?
I did find a "deprotector" that spit out a file, but all it was was the background....no stars....
The stars are colored pixels dynamically created based on a coordinates datafile retrieved separately and on an individual basis from Neopets's servers. That's why you won't find any pictures of stars or any star data in the Flash file.
yea...duh...I knew that lol. What about the pictures of each constellation that were found in the flash file?
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:38 pm
pezx2k wrote:farside wrote:pezx2k wrote:anjuna wrote:pezx2k wrote:hey im curious, people keep using the " its in the flash file" excuse...but who actually got in the flash file? I've been trying for awhile, and I can't find the constellations in there. Can someone who actually has gone IN the flash file explain?
It comes from *decompiling* the layers of the Flash file, not from viewing the final image.
Yea I get that, the flash file (telescope_cc0270.swf ?) is protected...I'ved tried importing into flash, importing to stage, importing to library...renaming....and its still protected. How did you manage to open the flash file?
I did find a "deprotector" that spit out a file, but all it was was the background....no stars....
The stars are colored pixels dynamically created based on a coordinates datafile retrieved separately and on an individual basis from Neopets's servers. That's why you won't find any pictures of stars or any star data in the Flash file.
yea...duh...I knew that lol. What about the pictures of each constellation that were found in the flash file?
I hear they should be in there too. I don't really see any reason not to believe that. Those constellation pictures have been posted on the internet almost since the beginning of the plot, and, so far, those posted pictures have been matching 100% with the verified constellations in the telescope. Why do you consider that those pictures may have come from the Flash file to be "an excuse"? Obviously, the pictures are being displayed by the Flash applet and they had to have come from somewhere, so, if they're not in the Flash file, then they would have to be downloaded by the Flash file. In whatever case, looking through the Flash file would be the first step in retracing the picture trail. It's very believable.
Theory page
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:50 pm
http://petpages.neopets.com/~incedius
This guy has some really solid info, plus it looks like everything said here ish correct.
This guy has some really solid info, plus it looks like everything said here ish correct.
Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:55 pm
farside wrote:I hear they should be in there too. I don't really see any reason not to believe that. Those constellation pictures have been posted on the internet almost since the beginning of the plot, and, so far, those posted pictures have been matching 100% with the verified constellations in the telescope. Why do you consider that those pictures may have come from the Flash file to be "an excuse"? Obviously, the pictures are being displayed by the Flash applet and they had to have come from somewhere, so, if they're not in the Flash file, then they would have to be downloaded by the Flash file. In whatever case, looking through the Flash file would be the first step in retracing the picture trail. It's very believable.
I wasnt saying that I dont believe it. I was saying that I keep hearing about hte pictures from the flash file, and being a flash person myself, I was wondering how they were actually gotten. I dont doubt that they came from the flash file, I just cant figure out how to get into the flash file. Thats what I'm asking about....Didnt mean to incite anything...
CHECK OUT THIS PAGE
Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:00 pm
Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:01 pm
Flash allows you to create, but protects already created files. You need a decompiling program to actually open and look at someone elses finished flash. You can Google one
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