Lost Desert Plot Discussion #93 (Summary in First Post)

[tristankb]

at this point, since all plot devices point to the fact that we have to read to change the city, I'm just going to keep reading as much as I can, when I can I guess! Hoping this will work... Is the LDP a means to remove a large part of the desert to upgrade it does anyone think? Hmmm, cannot wait to see what develops when we finally return the city!!

jojoneo: Not too quirky here... Neopets seems to be running fine for me! And its in birthday mode! I didn't know it changes when its your b-day! And here I am at working playing neopets waiting for incoming calls to route and playing inbetween...

[Pia321]

at this point, since all plot devices point to the fact that we have to read to change the city, I'm just going to keep reading as much as I can, when I can I guess! Hoping this will work... Is the LDP a means to remove a large part of the desert to upgrade it does anyone think? Hmmm, cannot wait to see what develops when we finally return the city!!

jojoneo: Not too quirky here... Neopets seems to be running fine for me! And its in birthday mode! I didn't know it changes when its your b-day! And here I am at working playing neopets waiting for incoming calls to route and playing inbetween...

Happy B-Day, Tristan!
I am at work too....

[silhouette169]

I don't think I am alone here when I say I am getting pretty miffed at the Neopets Team.
I enjoy puzzle plots. I like that this one wasn't over before I could say "Bob's your uncle." But really this is getting riddiculous! It's been what? almost 3 months?!

Ok sorry all done with that. Anyone find anything since last night?

[aih_ocelotl]

Sky, as you were talking about the physical implications of the LD plot, I've also start to think about it (I'm an electronics engineer, and have some physics backgroud). On the phase change/quntum leap/alternate dimension transition event, air surrounding sakmet city would surely have ionized by effect of the energy release to make the transition and there should be some remnants in the sand of that ionization effect. Now, we don't know the origin of the crystals, so they could be either prisms, liquid cristal blocks, piezoelectric quartz or any other suiting blocks. So, the place to get with them could be the most technologically advanced point of neopia, that is no other than the space station. What is missing here is what should we do with the crystal and the sand there...

As i posted before, lots of open roads heading to nowhere...

[Flipsyde]

I don't think I am alone here when I say I am getting pretty miffed at the Neopets Team.
I enjoy puzzle plots. I like that this one wasn't over before I could say "Bob's your uncle." But really this is getting riddiculous! It's been what? almost 3 months?!

Ok sorry all done with that. Anyone find anything since last night?

Its been almost 2 months now. My main dislike is their lack of communication. They owe it to us, the fanbase. We keep the site going. Without us, they wouldn't be in business. Our activity on the site makes them money, especially with the hits they get from the ads. The very least they could do, is inform us that things are going slow in preparing things. Or if there is something that has to be done that nobody has figured out (though with as many players, I doubt thats the case), they should say something. I think its that they are going very slow in preparing things and they aren't saying anything about it. They need to communicate better. Let us know so we aren't twiddling our thumbs or turning into -->

Plus, the end of November, The Darkest Faerie game is coming out and if I recall correctly, Donna stated that there will be something on the site that is related to the release of that game. If this is so, Neopets better get on the ball.

[Hangman]

If someone is keeping a list of every possible theory, then you can erase one off your list... Some people were suggesting that you could only get to different levels of isolated stairs when you had done things like talking to the fore-chef (which might give you access to the hidden stairs), getting the vial (giving you access to the area on the fourth floor) and so on.

Well, I've just tried it with a side account on which I hadn't been anymore for like three months, so this account didn't have any achievments at all yet, so I've tried the secret stairs and well, they just do the same thing as they are doing for everyone: just leading you through the fourth and third floor till you reach the regular stairs on the second floor... It's a shame, I really liked that theory as it would clearly prove that there still was something we had to find, now it's back to waiting again...

[Casi]

I have been trying to come up with ANYTHING that could mean something new to this plot. There is only one thing that comes to mind and it probably isn't anything either.

The comic that says to be continued and the prophecy that seems to need to be continued. I have been looking at the comic but don't see anything that could be a continuation of our prophecy. Most likely another dead end, but all I could come up with.

[anjuna]

I noticed this yesterday but my internet connection was down much of the time. The Libraries contain Scrolls with descriptions (to speak to the Repository Guards to get in). Notice the descriptions of each of the four Scrolls WITHIN THE SAME Library. It almost appears as if it is describing stages of the plot (River - Flooding Chamber/Water Trap); Maze (Tomb/Repository if you assume Tomos and Nabile are trapped in the Tomb but we are working above them in a Repository); but the last is "Astral" and the clues are a bit odd. Notice the words "hunter or cup."

Perhaps it is describing a Crystal Ball or a Useless Crystal. Beyond that, I don't know how to use this information, but it seems too highly organized.

"River"

Tatty Red Fer - “Here you will find rushing rapids.”
Royal Blue Djo - “Here you might weather a deadly flood.”
Regular Blue Tep - “Here you could sail from lake to sea.”
Tatty Green Kar - “Here you can take a cool drink.”

"Maze"

Royal Yellow Ben - “Here you cannot tell one path from the next.”
Regular Red Lat - “Here you could be terribly lost.”
Tatty Blue Saf - “Here you could wander with no end in sight.”
Royal Green Nem - “Here you might never be heard from again.”

"Astral"

Regular Yellow Ra - “Here you can look ages into the past.”
Royal Red Set - “Here you might find a hunter or cup.”
Regular Green Ahn - “Here you can navigate by points of light.”
Tatty Yellow Kha - “Here you can see suns far away.”


PS -- Did anyone else notice that TNT seemed to release a Background without telling us (either that or we all missed that news looking for clues): it appears to be Megan ("lg_courtdancer.gif"); perhaps we are all just waiting on her.

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[master_cat]

on my daughter's account she didnot finished her tablet but can now enter the repository without having to pass the guard.

The chef wouldn't give the crystal neither asked for a souvenir but I was able to read scrolls.

Now if reading scrolls are open to anyone, what clues does it give to us?

[lucifer]

did someone try that program that lists your scrolls?
it was posted in a new topic in this forum, but it still hasn't got feedback.

here's the link: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21917

[Christopher]

I don't understand that post =/

[Quicksilver]

"River"

Tatty Red Fer - “Here you will find rushing rapids.”
Royal Blue Djo - “Here you might weather a deadly flood.”
Regular Blue Tep - “Here you could sail from lake to sea.”
Tatty Green Kar - “Here you can take a cool drink.”

"Maze"

Royal Yellow Ben - “Here you cannot tell one path from the next.”
Regular Red Lat - “Here you could be terribly lost.”
Tatty Blue Saf - “Here you could wander with no end in sight.”
Royal Green Nem - “Here you might never be heard from again.”

"Astral"

Regular Yellow Ra - “Here you can look ages into the past.”
Royal Red Set - “Here you might find a hunter or cup.”
Regular Green Ahn - “Here you can navigate by points of light.”
Tatty Yellow Kha - “Here you can see suns far away.”

They're all describing the actual libraries...

River - flood, rapids, lake/sea, drink

Maze - can't tell one from another, lost, no end, never heard again

Astral (Night Sky) -
- Here you can look ages into the past. - Many cultures have constellations that tell stories about their pasts
- Here you might find a hunter or cup. - Orion, and the Big Dipper a.k.a. Ursa Major
- Here you can navigate by points of light. - that is how it used to be done, by the stars
- Here you can see suns far away. - Stars = Suns

[anjuna]

- Here you might find a hunter or cup. - Orion, and the Big Dipper a.k.a. Ursa Major

Ahh, yes! Thank you! Still, they also seem to describe stages of the plot? (I mean, who named them, anyway? The river one always looked like a serpent/snake to me.) If we have encountered a river library & trap; a maze library & tomb / repository; what does the astral library & sky represent to us?

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[supRNurs]

They're all describing the actual libraries...

River - flood, rapids, lake/sea, drink

Maze - can't tell one from another, lost, no end, never heard again

Astral (Night Sky) -
- Here you can look ages into the past. - Many cultures have constellations that tell stories about their pasts
- Here you might find a hunter or cup. - Orion, and the Big Dipper a.k.a. Ursa Major
- Here you can navigate by points of light. - that is how it used to be done, by the stars
- Here you can see suns far away. - Stars = Suns

Yes, they do. The titles told us which phrase to say to the guards and the descriptions tell us which library the scroll is located in. But just in case the way they are grouped into the libraries has any bearing, I've added the titles of the scrolls to anjuna's post:
"River"

Tatty Red Fer - Desert Survival Skills for the Dim-Witted - “Here you will find rushing rapids.”
Royal Blue Djo - Desert Petpets: A Cautionary Tale- “Here you might weather a deadly flood.”
Regular Blue Tep - History of the Sakmet Dynasty Vol 3 - “Here you could sail from lake to sea.”
Tatty Green Kar - Edible Desert Foliage Vol 9 - “Here you can take a cool drink.”

"Maze"

Royal Yellow Ben - Sand Cuisine for Elephantes - “Here you cannot tell one path from the next.”
Regular Red Lat - The Chemical Properties of Sand - “Here you could be terribly lost.”
Tatty Blue Saf - Ruki Population Survey Vol 5 - “Here you could wander with no end in sight.”
Royal Green Nem - Decorating With Sand - Winter Quarterly - “Here you might never be heard from again.”

"Astral"

Regular Yellow Ra - Desert Tent Zoning Regulations - “Here you can look ages into the past.”
Royal Red Set - Royal Proclamations of Coltzan Vol 13 - “Here you might find a hunter or cup.”
Regular Green Ahn - The Joy of Burnt Desert Food - “Here you can navigate by points of light.”
Tatty Yellow Kha - Famous Sand Collections - “Here you can see suns far away.”

[anjuna]

Thanks for that. Are the libraries named by file, or did someone come up with them just based on the icons of the library doors and the descriptions of the scrolls in them? That Astral Library still irks me, as it seems to be something we have not encountered, found, activated, or experienced yet.

Where on the site would we be able to do something like this? Look at stars, or navigate by them somehow? Perhaps using the Useless Crystal? Neopia needs a Planetarium!

EDIT: I notice Word Pyramid is off the home page, but Evil Fuzzles from Beyond the STARS is still there? Probably means nothing; grasping at straws here.