Lost Desert Plot Discussion #109 (Summary in First Post)

[goblin1981]

go do the chef thing ???? what??



Now that you've examined the symbols, the meaning of the tablet slowly becomes clear. The translation reads:

Prince Jazan will steal away with the city of Sakhmet

^ is that what i must tell th nuria faerie?

[anjuna]

My example of using BOTH subtracting AND adding the colors theory:

Useless Crystal 1: yyrbxyxyrrrbbxxb
Useless Crystal 2: ggpbxgxyoroppxxb

(To Find Color Catalog Order): bbbbxbxyyryrrxxb

(Subtract Spectrum): bbb?xbx?y?yrrxx?

(Assume White Used): bbbwxbxwywyrrxxw

(Adding Spectrum): ggpbxgxyoroppxxb

(Equaling): ggpwgwowoppw

Thus my 2 "keys" would be ggpbxgxyoroppxxb and bbbwxbxwywyrrxxw but ending up equaling ggpwgwowoppw.

EDIT: Hope this better explains my logic of suspecting this possibilty.

[Daze]

go do the chef thing ???? what??



Now that you've examined the symbols, the meaning of the tablet slowly becomes clear. The translation reads:

Prince Jazan will steal away with the city of Sakhmet

^ is that what i must tell th nuria faerie?

Yes, that is the prophecy. Copy and paste the prophecy to get it exactly right.

[goblin1981]

^ ok but i got pile of scrabs.. and next go to the one of the library doors and read what scroll? that what contains leaf? but what color same color as the door of faerie?

[abloomfi]

can someone check my sequence as i read all the scrolls yet nothing happened. My tablet says:

paw pillar fork fish
pillar duck wave flags
flags fish pillar leaf
pillar pillar paw cup

my lights say:
RYxx
BBRR
BYBx
YYRx

my crystal says:
RBY

So i read:
R: paw wave pillar paw
B: pillar duck flags pillar
Y: pillar fish pillar pillar

Is that right?

[Daze]

can someone check my sequence as i read all the scrolls yet nothing happened. My tablet says:

paw pillar fork fish
pillar duck wave flags
flags fish pillar leaf
pillar pillar paw cup

my lights say:
RYxx
BBRR
BYBx
YYRx

my crystal says:
RBY

So i read:
R: paw wave pillar paw
B: pillar duck flags pillar
Y: pillar fish pillar pillar

Is that right?

I can see a mistake it should be:
R: Paw, wave, flags, paw

But you read them in order of the Category Card, not the Tablet.

[hiddenneggs]

I'm still seeking spikes, but has anyone tried this?

On the secondary colors, after you subtract the original primary color to figure out the primary color from the 2nd crystal, to know which card-catalog rack to check the tablet 'glyph for scroll location, go back to the resulting secondary color (i.e., the colors actually seen in the Indiana Jones picture) when seeking the particular scroll with that 'glyph to read?

In other words, read another 12 scrolls, but this time some will be primary colors, some secondary.

It seems logical to me, but if it's been mentioned, I missed it.


It's similar to what anjuna just posted, but not dealing with white -- after all, we haven't seen white spots from our spectrums yet.

Also, the "Wet Paint" sign may indicate we mix the colors like paint rather than like light.

If I have this theory correct, I am only left with 8 scrolls, as some of my primary colours from the first Crystal are in exactly the same spot as from the second Crystal.

My 12 spots after subtracting primary from secondary are:
BYY-
--R-
YYBY

Dashes are where both are cancelled out.

Well, what I'm thinking (I just got sanded again, seeking spikes) is that if -- per the spectrum from the addition of the second crystal, you again end up with for example a blue djo, then you'd again read a blue djo scroll (though this time in the location according to the repainted blue catalog), but if you have, say, an orange ben, you would read an orange ben scroll (location determined either by the red or the yellow repainted catalog, as below).

Nothing would get "canceled out."

The subtracting-original-primary would (in my guess) be used only in deciding how to find where the secondary-color scrolls should be. If, with the same example, you have an orange ben, then it would depend on what color that ben was with the first crystal. If it was red, then you used the red catalog rack for its location, so this time (subtracting the original red from the new orange) you would check for ben's location in the yellow catalog rack.

When you get to that location, though, you'd want to read an orange ben, not a yellow ben.

If you have an actual yellow ben as well as an orange ben, my guess would be to read first the primary color, then the secondary color -- but still read all the scrolls in the color groupings of the catalog rack used (this time) for their locations.

I highlighted a couple lines in my quoted post to perhaps help.

Any clearer, or am I just muddying the waters further?

[Faerie_kitten74]

grrrrrr
i have tried 6 times to get a spike trap and still nothing!!!
I've been gassed, drowned and jellied twice each!! I've even tried each door color and shape. The one time I would enjoy being skewered and I can't find it. I really should have marked what traps were where when I mapped my temple.
I don't know how much longer I'll be awake but my light will shine in 2 1/2 hrs. I HOPE that if I'm still awake, I'll have my second crystal by then! If not... fear my lolly tnt!!

[Daze]

On the secondary colors, after you subtract the original primary color to figure out the primary color from the 2nd crystal, to know which card-catalog rack to check the tablet 'glyph for scroll location,

That is the part I am talking about. I have yellow and blue in the same positions on each.

What is yellow minus yellow or blue minus blue? Do they still stay the same colour?

Are you saying that if there is a primary colour on the 2nd crystal that the colour stays the same?

[norton4lf]

i havent done anything yet with my second crystal, but it sounds like you guys have a good theory, it just makes sense that your trying to find the colors that the new crystal makes, not what the combined crystals make. so obviously all you have to do is subtract the first crystals lights from the seconds lights. figure out where the spaces are on the second crystal, and figure out where the right regular primary colors are. if you can do that, i agree it should give you the new formula for searching.... i cant compare mine yet, so I cant theorize on it yet, but does the blanks line up the same as on the first crystal, or do they fill in? because just because something might be red yellow or blue doesnt mean the second crystal added another shade of red yellow or blue to that spot... I dont know maybe im just rambling or repeating data, sorry..

[stampsyne]

I think the question, Daze, is what is blue + blue? I think it is blue. I had the same problem with red. IS red-red=white???

Then I thought that red+red still equals red.

[Cranberry]

i havent done anything yet with my second crystal, but it sounds like you guys have a good theory, it just makes sense that your trying to find the colors that the new crystal makes, not what the combined crystals make. so obviously all you have to do is subtract the first crystals lights from the seconds lights. figure out where the spaces are on the second crystal, and figure out where the right regular primary colors are. if you can do that, i agree it should give you the new formula for searching.... i cant compare mine yet, so I cant theorize on it yet, but does the blanks line up the same as on the first crystal, or do they fill in? because just because something might be red yellow or blue doesnt mean the second crystal added another shade of red yellow or blue to that spot... I dont know maybe im just rambling or repeating data, sorry..

Several of us have tried this:

-Matching up the new and old light spectrums.
-Ignoring any spots where red stayed red, or blue stayed blue, etc., which left us with 8 "new" colors.
-When we got a "new" color, subtracted the old crystal's color from it to determine the color on the second crystal. So if we had a purple light now and blue before, we know the second crystal had a red spot.
-Matched these new reds, yellows and blues with the tablet symbols, then read these 8 scrolls in original crystal dot order, like the first time we had to hunt down scrolls. Didn't work.
-Read these 8 in card catalog order (the order the catalogs appear in the hallway). Didn't work.
-Read these 8 in tablet order. Didn't work.
-Inserted the 4 original colors, and read 12 in tablet order. (I THINK this got tried, but am not positive.)
-Inserted the 4 original colors, and read 12 in card catalog order. Didn't work.

And since then, we've got nothing.

Last edited by Cranberry on Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.

[telomerase]

i agree and can try this now - i think the goal is read a scroll that matches the color on the wall from the light - the subtration/mixture of colors determines the catalog/location - the order i am guessing is still determined by the original crystal colors??? do i have it?

[norton4lf]

i dont know how to quote, sorry, but I dont think you should necissarily ignore the colors that stayed the same, it might have the same color placed over top of it...... meaning if you removed the first crystal there would still be a colored dot of the same color in that spot, i think the key would be finding where the 4 spaces are on the second crystal, Unless of course that the spaces stay the same....

[Cranberry]

Spaces stay the same. And I just edited my post -- we did try inserting the original 4 as well.