Stolen avatar won random contest!

[-Ducky-]

Will they choose a new person for second place when this person is frozen? They might just move one person up from third place, or they could just leave it as nine 2nd place winners.

They won't freeze the person.

how do ya know that?

you know neo, they're so unpredictable, its not even funny

[sirclucky]

Thats just-wrong. The fact that 1. TNT would chose an avatar that was stolen and that fact that 2. someone would steel such a avatar. Im not sure if there is anything TNT can really do... as no one has 'proof' the avatar wasnt stolen., I guess TNT could look at old records and see when the pet page was last changed and all that, but knowing TNT they wont even bother. Meh...the nerve of some neopias

[dreamer]

Thats just-wrong. The fact that 1. TNT would chose an avatar that was stolen and that fact that 2. someone would steel such a avatar. Im not sure if there is anything TNT can really do... as no one has 'proof' the avatar wasnt stolen., I guess TNT could look at old records and see when the pet page was last changed and all that, but knowing TNT they wont even bother. Meh...the nerve of some neopias

Just look at the properties of both versions. It should list when it was uploaded and when it was last modified.

EDIT: Actually it doesn't seem to work. For me, it's showing everything as being created today.

Last edited by dreamer on Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

[_B4U_]

Will they choose a new person for second place when this person is frozen? They might just move one person up from third place, or they could just leave it as nine 2nd place winners.

They won't freeze the person.

how do ya know that?

you know neo, they're so unpredictable, its not even funny

no, actually, they're becoming more and more predictable as time goes on.Take the most idiotic and stupid thing you can possibly think of, and that's what they'll do.

[-Ducky-]

Will they choose a new person for second place when this person is frozen? They might just move one person up from third place, or they could just leave it as nine 2nd place winners.

They won't freeze the person.

how do ya know that?

you know neo, they're so unpredictable, its not even funny

no, actually, they're becoming more and more predictable as time goes on.Take the most idiotic and stupid thing you can possibly think of, and that's what they'll do.

yes and no.

No because you can't say that you expected them to give the same war prize to everyone on both sides that had under 6k points but

yes in the sense that they are getting lazier and lazier and putting more and more things off and /or not finishing things.

[Twisted Sanity]

Actually, you can't say TNT are neccessarily getting lazier. I mean, maybe now, they're letting their users in on their projects, whilst before everyone was kept in the dark. Before they could start a project and leave it half-way, and not many users would know about it. Now though...

[Morningstar]

Although it is morally wrong to have stolen that person's artwork, it isn't legally wrong, unless it was copyrighted. And, because Neopets owns all Neopets images, a user would not be able to copyright that avatar.

Unfortunately, some people get their jollies by stealing things from others. And, even more unfortunately, it is the risk you take when you put your own ideas or artwork on pet pages. Because it is public, anyone can come along and copy what they like.

So, though it is extremely unfair and a really low-handed tactic, I highly doubt that Neopets will do anything about it.

[Medusa]

Although it is morally wrong to have stolen that person's artwork, it isn't legally wrong, unless it was copyrighted. And, because Neopets owns all Neopets images, a user would not be able to copyright that avatar.

I always thought you could report art thieves in the Beauty Contest and the Art Gallery. If that is the case, how can the Random Contest be any different? Particularly if the user who originally created it submitted it as well.

Rules:

Spotlight Help

There aren't many rules for the Spotlights, but if you submitted a spotlight, these maybe some reasons why it didn't get in.

1. All written submissions must be 100% your own work, we do not tolerate plagiarism.

5. Pretending someone else's picture is your own will get your account frozen.

http://www.neopets.com/spotlight_subs/s ... ules.phtml

Art Contest Help
If you cannot upload your picture using the online form, you can post it to us at the following address:


Neopets.Com Picture Contest,
P.O. Box 10060, Glendale, CA, 91209-0263, USA
Sadly we cannot return your pictures, so only send your picture in if you are sure you don't want to keep it yourself.

There aren't many rules for the Art contest, but if you sent in a piece of artwork, these maybe some reasons why it didn't get in.

3. Pretending someone else's picture is your own will get your account frozen.

http://www.neopets.com/art/rules.phtml

Both of those rule pages are linked from the Random Contest page a references. From reading that I'd say the user can be frozen and from my own personal opinion I think they should be frozen.

[whitesandy]

I agree with morningstar. Using other people's hard labor and passing off as your owns work is what copying is all about. Hope this doesnt rub people the wrong way but copying homework, ideas, projects, captions, mystery pic answers are just a few examples of what people are capable of doing. In this instance using it to win a competition is despicable, but this is the real world. Nothing is really fair though i hope TNT does something about it...

[stampsyne]

Will they choose a new person for second place when this person is frozen? They might just move one person up from third place, or they could just leave it as nine 2nd place winners.

They freeze people who steal artwork. I can see them freezing a person for a stolen avatar as well. The same with art submissions, the person who submitted stays listed as the winner, they are just frozen. (That is my prediction)

They only remove an entry when it is neopets art that is stolen (like the grey faerie art entry).

[Scream]

Submit the Photoshop/gif animator file to TNT (or tell them where to find it). I don't know what's sadder...them stealign it or TNT for awarding them.

Then again, TNT probably just chose the winners out of the early entries. Doesn't take much time to upload someone else's work :|

[xjox]

Thats just-wrong. The fact that 1. TNT would chose an avatar that was stolen and that fact that 2. someone would steel such a avatar. Im not sure if there is anything TNT can really do... as no one has 'proof' the avatar wasnt stolen., I guess TNT could look at old records and see when the pet page was last changed and all that, but knowing TNT they wont even bother. Meh...the nerve of some neopias

Just like to point out that its not possible for tnt to check if every single entry is original. Unless they have the time to view all of the pets pages etc then they couldnt have known that this avatar already existed. They accept all entries on good faith that the submitter is being honest and really created it themselves.

Having said that though, it would be wrong of them to allow that person to keep their prize etc, personally I think they should be frozen or at the very least banned from entering any contests on neopets. I cant create avatars but I never even considered using someone elses work, I will simply wait for the next random contest and hope it is something I can do by myself.

[Witch King]

It doesn'ts urprise me they let this in. They know their users are over here at PinkPoogleToy and not one of them bothers to come over here and clairfy things as best they can.

It's not even that good of an Avatar!!! (Sorry to the maker, good idea, but it's not that good IMO...)

[Morningstar]

Although it is morally wrong to have stolen that person's artwork, it isn't legally wrong, unless it was copyrighted. And, because Neopets owns all Neopets images, a user would not be able to copyright that avatar.

I always thought you could report art thieves in the Beauty Contest and the Art Gallery. If that is the case, how can the Random Contest be any different? Particularly if the user who originally created it submitted it as well.

Rules:

Spotlight Help

There aren't many rules for the Spotlights, but if you submitted a spotlight, these maybe some reasons why it didn't get in.

1. All written submissions must be 100% your own work, we do not tolerate plagiarism.

5. Pretending someone else's picture is your own will get your account frozen.

http://www.neopets.com/spotlight_subs/s ... ules.phtml

Art Contest Help
If you cannot upload your picture using the online form, you can post it to us at the following address:


Neopets.Com Picture Contest,
P.O. Box 10060, Glendale, CA, 91209-0263, USA
Sadly we cannot return your pictures, so only send your picture in if you are sure you don't want to keep it yourself.

There aren't many rules for the Art contest, but if you sent in a piece of artwork, these maybe some reasons why it didn't get in.

3. Pretending someone else's picture is your own will get your account frozen.

http://www.neopets.com/art/rules.phtml

Both of those rule pages are linked from the Random Contest page a references. From reading that I'd say the user can be frozen and from my own personal opinion I think they should be frozen.

I believe that rule was put in for the beauty and art contests so that people didn't steal prior beauty/art contest winners' work and say that it was their own. I do remember that being quite a problem prior to their creation of that rule.

However, the problem here would be determining who had created the avatar first. Unless the original maker can show that he/she submitted it to the contest before the second person did, I don't see how he can prove that he created it first. And, if the original person didn't even submit it to the contest (which is highly probable because you could only submit one entry), then how exactly can he prove that he created it first. The second person could always say he thought of it first and the first person stole it from him when he put it on his petpage. I really don't think Neopets will do anything about it unless there is some solid proof.

[ahoteinrun]

Although it is morally wrong to have stolen that person's artwork, it isn't legally wrong, unless it was copyrighted. And, because Neopets owns all Neopets images, a user would not be able to copyright that avatar.

Unfortunately, some people get their jollies by stealing things from others. And, even more unfortunately, it is the risk you take when you put your own ideas or artwork on pet pages. Because it is public, anyone can come along and copy what they like.

So, though it is extremely unfair and a really low-handed tactic, I highly doubt that Neopets will do anything about it.

Wait... does this apply to all artwork? *squints* Because it's making my blood boil if it does. It's very illegal. Theres been art thieves that have been put away in jail for many years for doing stupid... aggrivating things like copying peoples artwork and saying it was theres.
HOWEVER.
My understanding of it also is, that if you copy somones work but you SAY it's a copy, then legally thats allright. Because everyone would know it's a copy... hence why so many art students don't get into trouble by doing master copies in painting/drawing (I do them too, but it's a rather out dated technique of learning). *blinks*