Lenny Conundrum Biased

[HollyPop]

I never quite understood why people from other countries don't first think of the hypocracy of insulting the US via an Internet connection.

The Internet was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, who is British. He has just received a knighthood for it.

[shapu]

As annoying as working in imperial is usually; it's okay for this week's question, because all the units (except inches) cancel each other out anyways. You don't have to do any conversion.

Actually, ONE unit has to be worked out - feet to inches.

But I don't consider this to be a particularly conversion-based conundrum. Most people who would be able to work out the formula anyway already know that feet are units of 12 inches, just as they know that a decaliter is big, and a deciliter is small.

Anyway, what's the deal? I think it's fun trying to convert between chains, rods, and miles.

[sirclucky]

If they used the metric system, other people would complain. Almost everyone knows there are 12 inches in a foot, that is the only place you need to know the system in order to solve that problem. Its really not that big of a deal

[Mxytdvc]

I never quite understood why people from other countries don't first think of the hypocracy of insulting the US via an Internet connection.

The Internet was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, who is British. He has just received a knighthood for it.

That's not true.

The internet was invented in 1968 by a company called Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN) which was hired by the United States Defense Department to develop it, they developed what is now called ARPAnet, and the first email was sent about 1971.

Tim Berners-Lee, in the late 80's/early 90's invented the World Wide Web, defining HTML (hypertext markup language), HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) and URLs (Universal Resource Locators).

The internet != World Wide Web. The WWW is a subgroup of the internet, it just happens to be a rather large part of it.

The internet's been around since the late 60's. The WWW came into large use around the mid 90's.

[shapu]

I never quite understood why people from other countries don't first think of the hypocracy of insulting the US via an Internet connection.

The Internet was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, who is British. He has just received a knighthood for it.

That's not true.

The internet was invented in 1968 by a company called Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN) which was hired by the United States Defense Department to develop it, they developed what is now called ARPAnet, and the first email was sent about 1971.

Tim Berners-Lee, in the late 80's/early 90's invented the World Wide Web, defining HTML (hypertext markup language), HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) and URLs (Universal Resource Locators).

The internet != World Wide Web. The WWW is a subgroup of the internet, it just happens to be a rather large part of it.

The internet's been around since the late 60's. The WWW came into large use around the mid 90's.

Kind of sad to think that the internet was invented for war, and that most major innovations since have been because of the pr0n industry...

[Baby Poogle Eater]

If they used SI, people would complain. If they used metric, people would complain. No matter what they do, someone will always complain.

[Casi]

At last check there were 3 countries that had not officially converted to the metric system: Liberia, Myanmar and -guess who?- the United States of My-Way-Or-The-Highwamerica.

Insulting an entire country because you find something on a web site to be biased? You are not at all biased are you?

[sugarlevi]

At last check there were 3 countries that had not officially converted to the metric system: Liberia, Myanmar and -guess who?- the United States of My-Way-Or-The-Highwamerica.

Insulting an entire country because you find something on a web site to be biased? You are not at all biased are you?

It seems to be referring to something your president has said some time ago. You are either with us, or you are against is. Was he insulting the USA when he said that, listening to you he probably did!!


Honestly I still do not understand why not everyone starts to use the metric system, looking at the problems is has caused and is causing even in NASA projects. All remember the Mars lander, a view years ago, which crashed because they used the two systems?

But I don´t mind either the use of the inches and feets in the LC it´s an extra challenge. We pink poogle toyers dont mind challenges do we?

[Kess]

This was LC #99 - english units

Let's look at some in the past, these are only the LC having to do with math quantity equations, not ciphers or other types of logic puzzles:
LC #98 - miles (english)
LC #97 - metric
LC #88 - lb (english)
LC #86 - metric
LC #81 - miles, because the 'explore' map key is in miles (english)
LC #77 - meters (metric)
LC #73 - cubic inches/volume (english)
LC #72 - cubic inches/calories (this LC and #73 were a two-part problem)
LC #69 - feet (english)
LC #65 - inches (english)
LC #60 - "neopian sound units"
LC #46 - metric
LC #35 - metric
LC #34 - metric
LC #33 - metric
LC #28 - metric
LC #24 - metric
LC #23 - english
LC #21 - metric
LC #2 - english
Ten in english units, ten in metric. Looks pretty equally split, although to me it seems that they've been alternating between the two recently, which seems fair.

As far as other aspects of the site: my pet's height is metric, his weight is in lbs. The 'explore' map uses a scale of CM to miles. Item weights are given in lb.

It seems to be a pretty mixed bag. And last time I was overseas, beer was still served in pints, and most food items, even ones that would never see american consumers had both metric and imperial units on the package. If we all went with what was easiest and best for everyone involved, we'd all be speaking Esperanto wouldn't we?

[HollyPop]

If we all went with what was easiest and best for everyone involved, we'd all be speaking Esperanto wouldn't we?

Amen to that!

[happysmileyfungirl]

This was LC #99 - english units

Let's look at some in the past, these are only the LC having to do with math quantity equations, not ciphers or other types of logic puzzles:
LC #98 - miles (english)
LC #97 - metric
LC #88 - lb (english)
LC #86 - metric
LC #81 - miles, because the 'explore' map key is in miles (english)
LC #77 - meters (metric)
LC #73 - cubic inches/volume (english)
LC #72 - cubic inches/calories (this LC and #73 were a two-part problem)
LC #69 - feet (english)
LC #65 - inches (english)
LC #60 - "neopian sound units"
LC #46 - metric
LC #35 - metric
LC #34 - metric
LC #33 - metric
LC #28 - metric
LC #24 - metric
LC #23 - english
LC #21 - metric
LC #2 - english
Ten in english units, ten in metric. Looks pretty equally split, although to me it seems that they've been alternating between the two recently, which seems fair.

We use centimeters, meters, grams and kilograms in the UK, not feet, inches, ounces and pounds

[shapu]

We use centimeters, meters, grams and kilograms in the UK, not feet, inches, ounces and pounds

Yes, but the system of feet, inches, pounds, gallons, et cetera is called the "English System," and meters, liters, and hectares are in the "International Standard" system, also called SI because it's French, and they do that weird adjective-second nonsense.

[ahoteinrun]

I'm sorry, where I live in Canada we also don't use miles, we use Kilometers.


*shrugs*

Also, this thread is by no ways supposed to be anti american. Any more comments that become anti-american in anyway will result in this thread being locked.
Likewise, if insults start flying about any other countries, this thread will be locked.

[sirclucky]

exactly. They have been pretty even. 10 on 10 isnt reallly biased, its being fair to everyone .

[cap]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Lenny Conundrum Biased
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I think its high time that Neopets stopped doing things because they're convenient for the United States and ignoring the rest of the world.

Let's look at the new LC, shall we?

Quote:
There was a steel beam 50 feet long. The entire Skeith construction crew (total weight: 6000 pounds) was standing at the center of the beam. Assume the modulus of elasticity is 29,000,000 pounds per square inch, the moment of inertia is 850 inches^4, the beam has simple pin connections at either end, and all loads other than the weight of the crew are disregarded.

Most of you probably see where I'm going with this.

At last check there were 3 countries that had not officially converted to the metric system: Liberia, Myanmar and -guess who?- the United States of My-Way-Or-The-Highwamerica.

Now, I'm may be a little rusty on the real stats, but I don't think that there were many Myanmarian or Liberians on Neopets, so I think its safe to assume that we're mostly being influenced by the other guy.

We can all see that in real life, other countries don't always get a fair shake. But hey, you didn't really want to buy that merchandise anyways, did you? The fact is, the US isn't the only country participating in this game and unless Neopets stops ostracizing every single country and starts building solid fanbases there, they are going to find themselves in the "dumb fad" column before too long.

looks anti-american to me. Honestly, you're getting yourself worked over the SMALLEST of things.