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Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:45 am

Hunter Lupe wrote:
bgryph wrote:After all, how often are you in a really dangerous multiple-enemy fight?

Try Nox's bodyparts on insane. They're not fun at all. :)

I'm trying (and probably getting annoyed on the way) to go for a 5x11+4 strategy (insane mode) -- putting 5 skills to 11 points, getting the final weapons, and then spending the last 4 skills to even out anything left (it's optimistic, I know, but it can work).

Generally, I'm all for Talinia's Multiple targets (but only to Fourth Arrow, or equipment bonuses). It's nice to have another anti-group attack later on in the game. I've no clue about shockwave (never used it, never felt the need to stun the whole group for a second).

Terask II is a nightmare however you look at him - Rohane's damage is halved, Velm gets trashed by the damage shield in direct attacks (and [almost] can't cast Hammer), Talinia gets reduced damage, and Mipsy hardly ever hits. Overall, it all depends on what (and how soon) Terask casts. In theory, any group can get trashed by a human playing as Terask (mesmerize Rohane, Mipsy and Talinia, and keep attacking velm untill he's dead -- piece of cake afterwards). In a related theory, if the odds are against you, you have no chance of beating Terask (luckily, the chance for that strategy actually happening is minimal).


4 HANDS of NOXES on INSANE? That's truly insane :o

Hmmm...it's pretty rare to get armour and weapons on evil for me. My god!

I put Tailinas multiple targets on Trinity Barrage (level 8) when I first got her. I acually thought fourth arrow was level 15 :P ANyway, I'd only reccomend fourth arrow (level 11) as her future bows will ubdoubtedly have multiple targets bonuses.

If you'e up against four hands then you'll wanna kill fast: Mipsy's DD. Yeah, I totally skipped ox. Especially on insane. What a waste of 16 corrodes, I didn't wanna backtrack to the house, so I continued on.

Tailinas slowing strike and shockwave: I'd say they're worth it. The SS can add onto each other, and shockwave could stun. Multiple targets + slowing strikes are a great combo, as when you fire a spray of arrows the slowing strike working for all of your enemies. However, the downside is the targets need to recharged. So anyway level 11 is enough for Multiple Targets :)

In my opinion Terask II was pretty hard on Normal. He kept healing :x Rohane's critical did 73 at like....level....I dunno. It usually did around 150.

Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:56 pm

I have a question, is it worth investing in Innate Melee/magic Defense? or should that just be left alone?

Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:32 pm

digitel_anime_fan_20 wrote:I have a question, is it worth investing in Innate Melee/magic Defense? or should that just be left alone?

I would say it is if you have extra points, especially with Mipsy since she'll be prone to dying otherwise.

Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:36 pm

bgryph wrote:Like I said, if you're unlucky enough to hit 4 Hands of Nox, that could be bad. :-) (I haven't ever done that, though.)


Wow. :o I wish I had your luck. They wouldn't leave me alone!

Talinia has lots of cool skills, and no +4 final weapon, so I decided I'd rather not spend the extra points.


She doesn't? I recall that she does. It's just that you're not always going to get it.

Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:41 pm

Innates are majorly important. I kept takin direst hits from magic when I first played, and thought they were pointless. I maxed it out after that :P

Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:41 am

Chaud wrote:4 HANDS of NOXES on INSANE? That's truly insane :o

Insane, yes, but not uncommon. There is a reason not many people have completed it in comparison to Normal, and Evil.

Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:58 pm

Ok, another question.

I'm currently in Chapter 2, almost ready to enter the Lost Caves. What level should I be at when I get out so I can fight Scuzzy?

I'm on Insane, btw.

Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:31 pm

Mark wrote:Ok, another question.

I'm currently in Chapter 2, almost ready to enter the Lost Caves. What level should I be at when I get out so I can fight Scuzzy?

I'm on Insane, btw.


well, although it's high I think that 28-31 would be a nice range for fighting Scuzzy on insane. Then again, I'm overly keen on being on the safe side of things.

Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:49 pm

Xil wrote:
Mark wrote:Ok, another question.

I'm currently in Chapter 2, almost ready to enter the Lost Caves. What level should I be at when I get out so I can fight Scuzzy?

I'm on Insane, btw.


well, although it's high I think that 28-31 would be a nice range for fighting Scuzzy on insane. Then again, I'm overly keen on being on the safe side of things.


Which is a good thing to be keen on when you're fighting on Insane difficulty.

Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:05 pm

kamehameha0 wrote:
Xil wrote:
Mark wrote:Ok, another question.

I'm currently in Chapter 2, almost ready to enter the Lost Caves. What level should I be at when I get out so I can fight Scuzzy?

I'm on Insane, btw.


well, although it's high I think that 28-31 would be a nice range for fighting Scuzzy on insane. Then again, I'm overly keen on being on the safe side of things.


Which is a good thing to be keen on when you're fighting on Insane difficulty.


Amen, I hadn't been expecting Insane to be so hard. I died 6-7 times around Rohanes home town cause I hadn't thought to level up. I was at lvl6 by the time I left his home.

Iconoplast's sagely advice is a must have for Insane: "Don't worry about turning around and running back when you run low on potions or are too weak."

Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:32 pm

I did all act bosses with +4 levels on insane (24/Ramtor,34/Scuzzy,44/Anubits,54/Esophagor). Works wonders, really.

Anyhow, I'm slowly nearing Terask. :)

Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:19 pm

Hunter Lupe wrote:I did all act bosses with +4 levels on insane (24/Ramtor,34/Scuzzy,44/Anubits,54/Esophagor). Works wonders, really.

Anyhow, I'm slowly nearing Terask. :)


Wow, you have too much patience.

I says for normal: Ramtor: level 20 Scuzzy: level 30 Anubits: level 40 Esaphagor: level 50.

Add one level for evil, 2 for insane. So scuzzy at level 32. To be honest I fought Anubits on normal at level 42 and he was TOO easy.

The innates are very important: You'll take direct damages from DD and GDD, and you wouldn't wanna be slow.

My friend once for 4 hands of nxes on normal, and they killed Velm and Mipsy :o

Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:23 pm

What level should I be to fight Zombom in Evil? I'm currently level 11 and I got killed by his guards 9I ran out of potions).

Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:47 pm

Hunter Lupe wrote:I did all act bosses with +4 levels on insane (24/Ramtor,34/Scuzzy,44/Anubits,54/Esophagor). Works wonders, really.

Anyhow, I'm slowly nearing Terask. :)


What patience you have young Hunter. :) I basically stuck to the normal levels my second time playing Insane. I was a bit over leveled in the first few acts, but that wore off.

What level should I be to fight Zombom in Evil? I'm currently level 11 and I got killed by his guards 9I ran out of potions).


The guards will be harder to kill than Zombom. For Evil, I fought him around level 12. Once you think you can take Zombom, just make a dash for him, skipping the guards.

Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:29 am

I'm on InSaNe! Here're my stats:
Location: Zakharukh's Pyramid (Floor 1)
Party:
Rohane, Mipsy, Velm: Level 42
Talinia: Level 43
Mission: The Final Step! To the Altar of Destiny!! (obviously)
Next boss: Anubits
Training Mode: Overtraining
SpiraLethe wrote:
Hunter Lupe wrote:I did all act bosses with +4 levels on insane (24/Ramtor,34/Scuzzy,44/Anubits,54/Esophagor). Works wonders, really.

Anyhow, I'm slowly nearing Terask. :)


What patience you have young Hunter. :) I basically stuck to the normal levels my second time playing Insane. I was a bit over leveled in the first few acts, but that wore off.

What level should I be to fight Zombom in Evil? I'm currently level 11 and I got killed by his guards 9I ran out of potions).


The guards will be harder to kill than Zombom. For Evil, I fought him around level 12. Once you think you can take Zombom, just make a dash for him, skipping the guards.


:o I'm only facing Anubits at Level 43 or 44. It's not very high, no. :(
I hope I get a Bow of Destiny/Staff of Reality. Their the most expensive. :D
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