Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:24 am
Skynetmain wrote:dolphinling wrote:A draw against him will not give you any battledome points, but plot-wise will be just the same. (You can pretend your pet went off and sacrificed herself to save the world, if you like)
That is good to know.
What exactly does this mean? It will advance the plot, but we won't get any points towards rewards? That would sort of suck :/
Especially for those of us that bravely sacrificed ourselves to be the first to find out what happened when you attack him with the Nuria weapon
Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:28 am
Yes, that's the meaning of sacrifice... you don't get anything for it. It's serves the higher good. 
Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:32 am
If you used your Nuria weapon against Razul, you got credit for finishing that part of the plot. Whether you won or tied doesn't matter.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:32 am
Oh, silly me. I thought it meant giving up something, like hours and hours of time, mapping, puzzling, and explaining, for some greater benefit. I didn't know we were sacrificing any chance of our efforts paying off, too.
Edit: Thanks for clarifying, Cranberry. I'm still new at all this.
Edit: Thanks for clarifying, Cranberry. I'm still new at all this.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:42 am
bakenekoneechan wrote:Skynetmain wrote:dolphinling wrote:A draw against him will not give you any battledome points, but plot-wise will be just the same. (You can pretend your pet went off and sacrificed herself to save the world, if you like
That is good to know.
What exactly does this mean? It will advance the plot, but we won't get any points towards rewards? That would sort of suck :/
Especially for those of us that bravely sacrificed ourselves to be the first to find out what happened when you attack him with the Nuria weapon
Well, bleh on that
I didn't know about the starlite potion, tsb and all that either. I think we should get something for our attempt, even if we did draw instead of win.
On the other hand, I am glad to know that the bug that allowed the multiple battles/wins will be taken care of. The person who battled I think 22 times, on the other hand, will NOT be glad about this.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:45 am
I'm not trying to be mean. The downside of being among the first is not knowing the pitfalls. Now that people know that can avoid it. Does that mean that someone who just started the plot last week is going to get more points than you? Doubtful.
I'm only bummed about two things with this plot: I missed the first few weeks of it because of the bleeding hurricane, and the points I missed from hauling sand and doing the first tablet translations can't be made up.
I'm also bummed about missing out on the extra 100K battledome points, since I do battle a bit. My mistake was: I attacked instead of sinking. I had already lost to Razul once, for giggles before I got my weapon, so I should have known better than to try and stand one round against him. Me estupida. My unknown was that I thought I'd have more than one chance to fight him after I got the plot weapon.
It looks like it won't effect how many points I get towards my final plot contributions, so I'm content. I have the score I deserve.
Oh yeah there was a report on the IDB of a guy who had 35 wins against Razul and got fa-rozen for it.
I'm only bummed about two things with this plot: I missed the first few weeks of it because of the bleeding hurricane, and the points I missed from hauling sand and doing the first tablet translations can't be made up.
I'm also bummed about missing out on the extra 100K battledome points, since I do battle a bit. My mistake was: I attacked instead of sinking. I had already lost to Razul once, for giggles before I got my weapon, so I should have known better than to try and stand one round against him. Me estupida. My unknown was that I thought I'd have more than one chance to fight him after I got the plot weapon.
It looks like it won't effect how many points I get towards my final plot contributions, so I'm content. I have the score I deserve.
Oh yeah there was a report on the IDB of a guy who had 35 wins against Razul and got fa-rozen for it.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:45 am
Serious question I've been meaning to ask: was there any correlation between the Hieroglyph symbol-ed tablet and the Qasalan symbol-ed tablet? I'm going out on a limb and assuming that everyone will respond with a 'no' (which is what I got), but I just want to check.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:48 am
Skynetmain wrote:Serious question I've been meaning to ask: was there any correlation between the Hieroglyph symbol-ed tablet and the Qasalan symbol-ed tablet? I'm going out on a limb and assuming that everyone will respond with a 'no,' but I just want to check.
Mine had no apparant similarities or patterns.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:50 am
No correlation whatsoever
Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:27 am
Oh yeah there was a report on the IDB of a guy who had 35 wins against Razul and got fa-rozen for it.
Yep, I saw the whole thing onthe neoboards too. They guy didn't think there was anything wrong beating him multiple times since he didn't go away, when he did one certain move inthe BD.
Oddly, enough, another guy got 4 wins on Razul,but wasn't frozen.
Cran said on iDB that if you got more thne 1 wins, TNT will knock it back to 1 kill...so I wonder if that guy with 21 wins will be unfrozen? You'd think you'd stop killing a Boss when other say he's a one shot deal/ the fact he was suppose to be uber powerful, so only one kill counts.
Meh...I blindly attacked Razul with my pet, but my pet can take massive attacks, so be being reckless made me lose nothing. I do feel sorry for people who got how to beat Razul last night, but didn't know he gave 100k BD points and all you needed was 14k to get a perfect.
I didn't know, so my kill wasn't perfect...my pet was hit for 486 damage.
*plays with spear* I hope this gets fixed after the puzzle, I want to use in in more battles, even if it's not too good.
Whoa!
Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:29 am
dolphinling wrote:The multiple fights has been confirmed by a staff member as a bug. It will not affect plot things at all, and when this is over anyone who has more than 1 win on him will have it brought down to 1 and the extra BD points will go away.
A draw against him will not give you any battledome points, but plot-wise will be just the same. (You can pretend your pet went off and sacrificed herself to save the world, if you like
Whoa! You mean my brave (trembling) little Gelert got BD points because she managed to win instead of draw? It never even crossed my mind...
(runs to check)
YES! W00t!
Er, sorry. I had no idea of any of this strategy discussion; just got the Spear 'cause she's pretty smart, and let her go romping out. Sheer luck she somehow got it right.
(must post screenie)
Kei's Buddy (SpaceElf1 on Neopets)
only 2 days to the http://www.bluecrashkit.com Kei episode
Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:39 am
I accidently did the step with the first crystal wrong. Now what? Can I go back to the card catalog and start all over? Or can I go back and start from where I read the wrong symbol?
Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:45 am
kathrynmw1 wrote:I accidently did the step with the first crystal wrong. Now what? Can I go back to the card catalog and start all over? Or can I go back and start from where I read the wrong symbol?
With the first crystal you need to start over at the beginning of your 12 scroll list. They all have to be clicked in order with no intermediate mistakes.
With the later crystals, you only have to go back a single step if you get messed up.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:46 am
kathrynmw1 wrote:I accidently did the step with the first crystal wrong. Now what? Can I go back to the card catalog and start all over? Or can I go back and start from where I read the wrong symbol?
First crystal you need to start from the begining.
And just to ask, I know there's all the furious debate over win versus draw, but my question is what do battledome points matter anyways? Are they just for glory?
Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:48 am
kathryn, I think with the first crystal you will have to start over. It's been awhile!
Cilian - I don't think anyone really knows that yet, the whole point versus no point thing with the battle. I do hope all of us with draws get something. Not to take anything away from all the people who won!
I had read that someone was frozen for battling razul over and over due to the glitch or bug or whatever it was. There was a really long board late last night and alot of people didn't believe the person, that they were able to keep going, and if they were that they shouldn't be -- that it was a glitch.
So, if the person got frozen, I'd bet (if I was a betting person) that it was for "abusing a glitch" or "taking advantage of a glitch".
There was someone on the charter board who found that they were able to battle him 4 times before getting the "you have weakened" message and no more being able to click. None of the rest of us on that board were able to fight more than once and said so. Not that we were implying that the person did anything wrong, quite the contrary. Why they battled again (had 3 wins, went on for a 4th) when so many of us were saying something wasn't right is beyond me. I do hope they don't get frozen. They honestly thought that maybe some people were being allowed to fight him more than once.
The person in the BD last night? I don't know. On the one hand, it was a bug, the person won't get anything extra if TNT takes any multiple wins down to 1 so there's technically no "advantage' or harm. On the other hand, there were a load of people telling the person to stop, that it must be a glitch, etc. and the person was like I'm going to fight as many times as I can. I'm not backspacing or doing anything against the rules.
I actually think maybe a suspension in that particular case would have been more fitting than just flat out freezing.
It's bad to be able to see both sides of something. I find myself constantly having to play devil's advocate with my roomies and other people I know.
Cilian - I don't think anyone really knows that yet, the whole point versus no point thing with the battle. I do hope all of us with draws get something. Not to take anything away from all the people who won!
I had read that someone was frozen for battling razul over and over due to the glitch or bug or whatever it was. There was a really long board late last night and alot of people didn't believe the person, that they were able to keep going, and if they were that they shouldn't be -- that it was a glitch.
So, if the person got frozen, I'd bet (if I was a betting person) that it was for "abusing a glitch" or "taking advantage of a glitch".
There was someone on the charter board who found that they were able to battle him 4 times before getting the "you have weakened" message and no more being able to click. None of the rest of us on that board were able to fight more than once and said so. Not that we were implying that the person did anything wrong, quite the contrary. Why they battled again (had 3 wins, went on for a 4th) when so many of us were saying something wasn't right is beyond me. I do hope they don't get frozen. They honestly thought that maybe some people were being allowed to fight him more than once.
The person in the BD last night? I don't know. On the one hand, it was a bug, the person won't get anything extra if TNT takes any multiple wins down to 1 so there's technically no "advantage' or harm. On the other hand, there were a load of people telling the person to stop, that it must be a glitch, etc. and the person was like I'm going to fight as many times as I can. I'm not backspacing or doing anything against the rules.
I actually think maybe a suspension in that particular case would have been more fitting than just flat out freezing.
It's bad to be able to see both sides of something. I find myself constantly having to play devil's advocate with my roomies and other people I know.