Lost Desert Plot Discussion #101 (Summary in First Post)

[neomania]

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[desiqtie]

I'm a set and I got my light at 3:27 NST. Random time?

Anyways, I have blue blank blue red yellow red blue yellow red blue blank blank yellow blank yellow red.

Hrm, have people tried reading the scrolls for their color and symbol in order yet? Although, if that were the case...what are we supposed to do for the blank spaces?

EDIT:

Just went back and read some of the older posts...guess the scroll theory has already been disproven. heh. my bad.

O.o! Hrmm...I wonder if the symbols which are going around the other two walls have anything to do with anything?

P.S. (I'm a new member too!) been lurking for awhile though!

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[doubletee]

New member, but have been lurking for a while.

I have been trying to figure out our next step, and I am wondering:

Has anyone done any linking of the scrolls in the repository to the ones in the three libraries in the tomb?

The Astral, Maze, and River symbols seem to correspond to our three main colors -- Red, Yellow and Blue. Perhaps we need to read scrolls that correspond with those symbols in some order? Maybe in the order of the colors on our useless crystals?

[labrat167]

There, on the ceiling, is that the crack of dawn I've always heard about? I'm still waiting for enlightenment!

[purplecatlover2003]

ok im tryong something out....i just read a yellow paw scroll, it ties in to my tablet and light colours, im getting size from the aprox sixe of scrolls in the catalogue if there ar emore than one of each type of scroll possibly right if that makes sense.

anyway... the scroll i just read something weird happened.....it booted me back into the repository without any your pet reads message and the scroll is not there now. gone, vanished, replaced by a different scroll.

[XenaAndGabrielle]

ok im tryong something out....i just read a yellow paw scroll, it ties in to my tablet and light colours, im getting size from the aprox sixe of scrolls in the catalogue if there ar emore than one of each type of scroll possibly right if that makes sense.

anyway... the scroll i just read something weird happened.....it booted me back into the repository without any your pet reads message and the scroll is not there now. gone, vanished, replaced by a different scroll.

You read a scroll, and it has been replaced by a different one?

Have any screen shots of it? Sounds interesting.

Edit: I've now tried reading my faerie statue symbol in the order of the colors on my useless crystal. (not the lights on the wall). Nothing special.

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[anjuna]

The Astral, Maze, and River symbols seem to correspond to our three main colors -- Red, Yellow and Blue. Perhaps we need to read scrolls that correspond with those symbols in some order? Maybe in the order of the colors on our useless crystals?

Yes! If I remember correctly, doesn't the Astral one even have red, yellow, and blue "dots" as points of a stellar constellation right on the symbol?

[Cranberry]

Wherever our next step is, it most likely involves the card catalog. Think about it. That was added for a very good reason, and I am sure it's no coincidence that the lights projected on the wall are in the three card catalog colors. So focus on that.

I still suspect we have to match the mysterious tablet symbols and the projected lights up, then go to the repository rooms indicated by those color/symbols in the card catalog. What I don't know is which scroll to read once I get to each room.

What we SHOULD do is come up with a few possible theories as to which scroll to read, and assign one PPT member to try each one, to see if any of us hits on it.

(This would be easier if we had an AIM chat room or something specifically for those who know their light combo. This thread moves way too fast.)

[Susannahmio]

finally got my light between 3-4 pm NST
for those keeping track my symbol is DJO and my order of lights is:
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[XenaAndGabrielle]

The Astral, Maze, and River symbols seem to correspond to our three main colors -- Red, Yellow and Blue. Perhaps we need to read scrolls that correspond with those symbols in some order? Maybe in the order of the colors on our useless crystals?

Yes! If I remember correctly, doesn't the Astral one even have red, yellow, and blue "dots" as points of a stellar constellation right on the symbol?

The library door is in the first post ... it doesn't have the correct color dots on it.

[supRNurs]

Woah... I just came back from taking my daughter to the doc and catching up on the board has made my head spin. Nice to get a little encouragement from TNT, and it's especially nice to know that we're not sitting waiting for something else to be activated.

Okay, people who have their lights/know their color pattern on the wall:

What have you tried?

Last night a couple of members tried matching the color pattern up with their mysterious tablets and using the card catalog to find the corresponding scrolls. (So if their first light was blue and their first symbol was lat, they'd go to the repository room listed beside lat in the blue card catalog.) The problem is that once they were there, they weren't sure which scroll to read -- should it be a blue lat, or a lat of some other color, or a different symbol (their faerie symbol, maybe)? What if there were a few blue lats, or a few faerie symbols? This is where we've been stuck since then.

Cran, I'm with you here. I believe the lights paired with symbols from the tablet could give us a "list" to look up in the card catalog, which gives us a "list" of rooms. But that is as far as anyone has gotten. We need more information to determine which scrolls to read once inside the correct room. (IF, this is the correct way to getting the rooms.)

But the card catalog has to mean something. We just have to figure out if it's the only thing we need, or if there's something else.

As far as I can tell, the card catalog will be used to locate a certain room, from a certain color / symbol combination. We need to figure out are which color / symbol combinations to look up (and the theory above seems the most likely at this point.) There was also an interesting point made earlier about the order in which the colored racks appear.

Dirtside is the real deal. So, we must focus our attention to figuring out the next things to try.

Like I said awhile back .... here is what I personally tried.

1) Reading all scrolls from my card catalog (Note: I did not do this in any sort of order). (Also Note: I did this *before* seeing the lights)

Result: Nothing special.

What do you mean the scrolls from the card catalog? Unless I'm mistaken, the card catalog would only give you a section / room name. Which scrolls do you mean?

2) Reading the scolls from the card catalog that corresponded to the lights on the wall and the symbols on my tablet (16 color places ... 16 symbols on the tablet). Seemed logical. I just skipped the blank ones.

Result: Nothing special.

I agree with the 16 to 16 idea. But, how did you decide which scrolls to read?

Ideas that I have throwing around in my head this afternoon while I work.

1) The 3 symbols on the side wall. There are 3 colors on top of the useless crystal. Perhaps these are related somehow.

I agree that we need to see if there is any purpose to the symbols on the wall, but I see them more as one "set" spanning across both walls.

2) The library scrolls in the temple. We haven't really used them yet. The 12 hour lockout makes trying them hard .... but it isn't like you get locked out of the repository. I am hesitant to do this, since it seems like it was important to have read the faerie statue scroll last for other parts of the plot.

I agree. We did use them, like you said, to read the scroll matching our faerie statue's symbol. The only other thing I think may be important with them is the groupings in the different libraries. The descriptions were written to give us clues to find the correct libary door, but why were certain symbols grouped together inside? I haven't noticed any other groupings of 4, except in lines of the tablet.

4) The "blank" spots on the wall. Perhaps we need to find a way to make spots appears in all places. I do think all the colors will end up red/yellow/blue, since those are the scrolls we can look up in the card catalog.

Well, I don't think making the blanks go away will help. They must have put them in for a reason. But I do agree that the logical match for the colors is the colors of the card catalog racks.

Dirtside has spoken, though ... this part of the plot is waiting to be solved. So let's do it, fellow PPT'ers. Let's do IT!

I'm with ya!! Rah Rah Rah!
(At least until time to cook supper.... heh)

So, my thoughts:
The logical match for the colors of the lights is the colors of the racks in the "card catalog." However, the racks seem to be in different orders for different people. Perhaps we should do a little more information gathering on this point - gather together all of the variables we have identified so far and see if there is a pattern there. (ie. statue symbol, rack color order, light pattern, and crystal colors.)

To be able to use the card catalog, we would need a symbol and color combination. If we assume the lights are giving us the color, we have either 16 or 12 to look up. (12 if you ignore the blanks.) Therefore, we would need a sequence of 12 or 16 symbols to pair with those colors. The sequence of 16 symbols brings to mind the tablet. Is there a sequence of 12? The scrolls inside the temple libraries are 12 total, in groups of 4.... is there anything else?

We need information to direct us to the correct scroll, as well as to the correct library section or room. In order to find a specific scroll, we would need to know the symbol and color of the seal, and perhaps the size of the scroll.
Symbols are the same everywhere, so most anything with symbols could point us to a scroll.
The colors of the scroll seals have only appeared in one other place that I know of - the lenny conundrum.
Sizes, well, I'm not really sure that they matter, as the actual item scrolls and the scrolls inside the temple libraries are also different shapes / sizes and it hasn't seem to matter at all.

It seems that the LC would give us, at most, a sequence of colors to try. I did notice that in naming the repo. rooms, the symbols are used like we would use letters of the alphabet. (ie. On floor one, there are 2 sections: Lost Desert Genealogical Histories, Ahn through Kha, and Lost Desert Genealogical Histories, Lat through Tep. The symbols seem to be arranged in alphabetical order.) But I can't get a symbol to letter correlation from it.

So, is there anything else that might lead us to the information we would need to be able to identify which rooms to look up? or which scrolls to read once we determine the rooms? And should we gather data on the scroll rack arrangement?

[jojoneo]

still i cant get the clue for the door 1 neopoint donation and writing

a Hieroglyph Fragment with a and without the a. what i am doing wrong

do i have to wait the answer from well?

Refresh at the fortune teller first, make sure she gives you the clue first then go to the wishing well

Good luck

[link3710]

ok im tryong something out....i just read a yellow paw scroll, it ties in to my tablet and light colours, im getting size from the aprox sixe of scrolls in the catalogue if there ar emore than one of each type of scroll possibly right if that makes sense.

anyway... the scroll i just read something weird happened.....it booted me back into the repository without any your pet reads message and the scroll is not there now. gone, vanished, replaced by a different scroll.

1. How did it tie in?
2. What size was the scroll you read?

[anjuna]

The library door is in the first post ... it doesn't have the correct color dots on it.

Oops, sorry, yes, still seems like it might be a sort of clue? Sorry late in catching up, basically took me over 2 hours to scan the posts since last nite.

[stampsyne]

The number three has been haunting me. Three library doors, three light colors, three directories. Ow!